And Abner had communication with the elders of Israel, saying, Ye sought for David in times past to be king over you:

2 SAMUEL 3:17KJV
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What does 2 Samuel 3:17 mean?

2 Samuel 3:17 describes how Abner, a powerful military leader, spoke with the elders of Israel and reminded them that they had previously wanted David to be their king. Abner is encouraging these leaders to support David’s rise to the throne, pointing out their earlier desire for his kingship.

In this verse, Abner is not speaking to David or his own troops, but to the elders (leaders) of the tribes of Israel. The situation is tense: Saul, the previous king, has died, and there is uncertainty about who should rule. Abner, who had supported Saul’s family, is now shifting his loyalty and trying to bring the rest of Israel to accept David as king, using their own past wishes as leverage.

The Hebrew behind 2 Samuel 3:17

  • "communication" (הָיָה, hayah; דָּבָר, davar): The phrase here combines the idea of "being" or "happening" (hayah) with "word" or "matter" (davar), suggesting that Abner initiated a significant conversation or negotiation, not just casual talk.
  • "elders" (זָקֵן, zaqen): This word refers to respected leaders or heads of tribes, emphasizing that Abner is addressing the decision-makers of Israel, not the general population.
  • "sought" (בָּקַשׁ, baqash): This verb means "to seek" or "to desire," showing that the elders had previously shown real interest or longing for David to be their king, not just a passing thought.

Why 2 Samuel 3:17 matters

  • This verse clarifies that the desire for David as king was not a new idea, but something the leaders of Israel had already considered, which helps explain why Abner’s appeal would be persuasive.
  • The verse highlights Abner’s political skill; he is using the elders’ own wishes to guide them toward supporting David, showing how alliances and leadership were negotiated in ancient Israel.
  • Understanding this moment helps make sense of the larger story, where David’s rise to kingship is not just about military power, but also about winning the support of influential leaders across the nation.

Where else these words appear

“times” Hebrew H8543 · used in 22 verses

  • Genesis 31:2 And Jacob beheld the countenance of Laban, and, behold, it was not toward him as before.
  • Exodus 21:36 Or if it be known that the ox hath used to push in time past, and his owner hath not kept him in; he shall surely pay ox for ox; and the dead shall be his own.
  • Ruth 2:11 And Boaz answered and said unto her, It hath fully been shewed me, all that thou hast done unto thy mother in law since the death of thine husband: and how thou hast left thy father and thy mother, and the land of thy nativity, and art come unto a people which thou knewest not heretofore.

“past” Hebrew H8032 · used in 25 verses

  • Genesis 31:2 And Jacob beheld the countenance of Laban, and, behold, it was not toward him as before.
  • Deuteronomy 4:42 That the slayer might flee thither, which should kill his neighbour unawares, and hated him not in times past; and that fleeing unto one of these cities he might live:
  • 1 Samuel 10:11 And it came to pass, when all that knew him beforetime saw that, behold, he prophesied among the prophets, then the people said one to another, What is this that is come unto the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?

“Abner” Hebrew H74 · used in 53 verses

  • 1 Samuel 14:50 And the name of Saul's wife was Ahinoam, the daughter of Ahimaaz: and the name of the captain of his host was Abner, the son of Ner, Saul's uncle.
  • 2 Samuel 2:23 Howbeit he refused to turn aside: wherefore Abner with the hinder end of the spear smote him under the fifth rib, that the spear came out behind him; and he fell down there, and died in the same place: and it came to pass, that as many as came to the place where Asahel fell down and died stood still.
  • 2 Samuel 3:22 And, behold, the servants of David and Joab came from pursuing a troop, and brought in a great spoil with them: but Abner was not with David in Hebron; for he had sent him away, and he was gone in peace.

“communication” Hebrew H1961 · used in 72 verses

  • Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
  • Exodus 12:4 And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.
  • 2 Samuel 9:9 Then the king called to Ziba, Saul's servant, and said unto him, I have given unto thy master's son all that pertained to Saul and to all his house.